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silaveganita ❤🌱True🌱❤3 likesReply

ultraviolett20 Do you know where Carliles post went? Did he delete his profile??2 likesReply

natalinkal He has left Abillion. You can still enjoy his posts on Twitter under C4ARLILE.3 likesReply

southernveganupnorth Thank you for this post! There are many vegans who turn people away from our cause by simply being unwilling to allow others the time and space to embrace the conclusion we have all come to, and that only further hinders our progress. Before I was vegan, if my choice to be vegan had relied on me engaging with vegans to see if I would be accepted and could find community, I would never have joined because the hostility and aggression from many within our community is unlike anything I have experienced before. I will never understand embracing a movement which has kindness as a core value, and then not extending that kindness to the human beings on whom you are wholly reliant to achieve any of your goals. Not only is it counterproductive, it forces the rest of us to have to deal with the pushback, derision and ridicule from omnivores who have had terrible experiences with vegans and think we are all awful people. Personally, I would much rather applaud someone for adopting Meat Free Mondays or switching to plant milk, than tear them apart for the animal products they still consume and then somehow hoping they will join me in ending animal exploitation 19 likesReply

southernveganupnorth Sorry, not sure why my comment came under yours and not the picture! 1 likeReply

stevenneoh Uhh no? What you're saying is tantamount to proposing that hate speech be acceptable under the aegis of freedom of expression1 likeReply

stevenneoh @southernveganupnorth Most such vegans are simply virtue-signalling to fill some void in their lives 😥5 likesReply

soyflake If someone is "turned away by other vegans" then they were never gonna be vegan anyway. You go vegan for the animals - not for the vegans. If you applaud someone "meatfree Monday" then I hope you applaud someone for "wife-beating-free-monday" too. 6 likesReply

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southernveganupnorth First of all, I am a black woman and white vegans are some of the most racist people I have ever met so yes, I would’ve 1000% been turned away from veganism had their reaction to me been a deciding factor to me embracing veganism. Second of all, as a survivor of domestic abuse, conflating two very different and not even related topics to make a point about *my* vegan is not only aggressively rude but tone deaf and lacking in the very compassion this post was asking for. Don’t @ me with half-baked nonsense when I am living and breathing a vegan life daily despite how unwelcoming and hostile my fellow vegans have been to me10 likesReply

soyflake You ask for compassion yet you take a dump on someones skin color? You get offended by the "wife-beating-free-monday" yet this is exactly what you advocate for the animals with "meatfree Monday". Does this make any sense to you?2 likesReply

southernveganupnorth What are you even talking about? White vegans have been racist *to me* for merely existing in the mostly exclusively white spaces veganism occupies in my part of the world. I actually don’t have the time or emotional bandwidth for aggression on a post asking you to stop doing that to other people. Stay blessed with this block ✌🏽10 likesReply

soyflake So let me get this straight, instead of addressing and engaging in the conversation of why you're offended by even the thought of "wife-beating-free-monday" but yet you advocate for this for the animals by applauding "meatfree Monday", but instead you pull up something completely unrelated in an attempt to portray yourself as the victim? Ok then 1 likeReply

oddish Hey friend, next time it might be better for the whole community to not purposely egg someone on. Not everything requires a response 🧡2 likesReply

stevenneoh Hey, thanks for reaching out and for making the point so courteously. Another user said in one of the Mandarin replies not to stoop to their levels, I guess you both have a point. Truth be told, at the start I just wanted to get one or two jabs in, taste of their own medicine type stuff. But somewhere in the middle I decided I would push them to the point where they said something to get them banned from the app, simply because the app is a better place without them if they can't fit in with what the Abillion folks had said in the main post. I don't regret that decision now, but maybe I will when I wake up tomorrow, who knows.

I apologise if anyone else felt targeted by what the now-deleted user said about non-vegans.1 likeReply

andreadal I am white woman, I am vegan and I am not racist. Don’t accuse. 2 likesReply

andreadal I meant to reply to another comment here. The comment, which says that white vegans are racists. 1 likeReply

veganhaven yeah, it tends to be quite the opposite, in my experience 😅1 likeReply

anissabklyn Sending you a hug. I am sorry that you have experienced this @southernveganupnorth Reply

soyflake Being kind doesn't mean to withhold the truth. Just because someone feels called out by the truth, it doesn't mean we shouldn't hide the truth. There's an animal holocaust going on and it needs to be addressed. 8 likesReply

soyflake Ah crap I meant to reply to the picture not your comment sorry😂Reply

missgoodlife You say we should call out the truth yet when southernveganupnorth shared/called out the issue of racism amongst white vegans you seemed to dismiss it. It is an actual issue on many sites and your deafness to it kinda proves her point. It’s all learning and expanding our minds to others experiences. She’s a vegan and your busy shaming her for specieism. This is exactly the behavior that turn people away from seeking veganism, so are you really saving animals in the end or just making yourself feel better by bullying others? 3 likesReply

soyflake Oh please. You carnists always has a way to find the victim role. You go vegan for the animals not for the admiration of others. Prejudice against white people IS racism. But speciesism and racism boils down to the same root of evilness: the belief that you're superior. Stop being racist and stop being speciesist. And stop talking to me If you still pay for slavery, torture and murder. Bye2 likesReply

soyflake If you're an antinatalist then veganism is logic. Antinatalism without veganism is just childfreeReply

stevenneoh I avoid all animal by-products unless I have no option to do so without causing serious social upset. That doesn't make me a vegan, and some of comments here remind me of why I don't want to be one anyway.3 likesReply

soyflake Which one? I'd love to hear your which one makes you not want to be against animal abuse. 2 likesReply

stevenneoh Oh, whichever ones try to guilt-trip people for not being fully "vegan", insensitive to whatever pressures (social, cultural, monetary) they may be under and to whatever efforts they may already be making to go "against the grain". The same ones that claim a disparaging moral high ground and make an unnecessary effort to signal virtue. Look, I don't know who you are and what your life is like, but, if there's a void in it, perhaps try to fill it with human love?4 likesReply

stevenneoh I stand in solidarity with whoever is feeling horrible because of people like you4 likesReply

soyflake If you enslave, rape and kill other sentient beings then you have every reason to feel guilty. Veganism is the opposite of moral high ground, it's aknowlegding that you're not superior and that nobody should die or be exploited for your personality pleasure. If anything it's the non-vegans who think they're superior to non-humans. So superior that their pleasure or culture justifies violence and abuse. You say vegans have a "void in their life", you wanna know the truth? Vegans are angry because there's an animal holocaust going on and non-vegans like you act like it's just whatever that a trillion animals are being exploited, raped and murdered for nothing more than a sandwich or a jacket.4 likesReply

felice ...accusing someone who has written over 2000 reviews on this app of not caring about animals is a bit of a stretch, steven has obviously made a huge difference for animals and sanctuaries by doing so and is really supporting this whole movement 😊3 likesReply

oddish Agreed! Up until this comment thread, I’d never seen any kind of extreme criticism on here or anything. Straightforward passion, sure, but there’s a difference. Kinda sad it’s becoming nasty in here now, but then again I understand why people are upset, too.1 likeReply

lliguerpr96 McDonald's fries, the only country where they're not vegan is in the US. McD's french fries have "cow (euphemism 'beef') fat"Reply

stevenneoh 我看到他们一个一个针对你语气又那么狠，替你心疼。很佩服你的包容心，永远支持你!1 likeReply

piggy-egg 谢谢你的反击！我受宠若惊！🤣🤣
你很少多言，总觉得这个张贴因我而来！那些来者不善、善者不来嘛！我们无需降低自己的身份来迎合任何人！
我有多努力再坚持做好这件事已足矣！
如果他们觉得这个平台没有用、可以自行离开！自己做的不多却在此评论他人，是自卑还是妒忌我不懂！可以好好说话我年纪不轻，愿意听慢慢学！但说话有刺，不动听！回应是礼貌、不回应并非我怕你！只觉得话不投机三句多、浪费我的口水和时间！还好我最近防《语》衣，没事啦！说实在，这里大多数人都有涵养人也很好！唯有少数人自以为是的贱踏他人！多行不义必自毙！
共勉之、加油！


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mparramon Yeah that did go a bit too far, a bit ashamed to see such bigotry in my mother tongues…

@gatavegana properament afegirem un botó per traduir els textos i comentaris. De moment pots fer una captura de pantalla, anar a Google Translate i traduir.

Avisa’m quan hagis vist això, que et bloquejaré, no vull veure els teus comentaris racistes. Reply

ctfloof agree - the attacks and nastiness totally unnecessary - peace ☮️ and love 💗 whilst educating so much nicer 2 likesReply